Anonym (elsi) skrev 2018-12-28 03:53:15 följande:
www.instagram.com/p/BqQjFHlHk0r/ Hinner inte svara mer för tillfället , men här är något viktigt om oföddas medvetande.
Men gud... du använder på riktigt denna extremt ovetenskapliga film från 1984?
Redan på 80-talet dock fanns bland annat denna artikel som svar:
www.thecrimson.com/article/1985/3/11/manipulative-silent-scream-pbto-the-editors/
Ett utdrag:
Dr. Edwin Myer, chairman of the department of pediatric neurology at the Medical Colege of Virginia, says "that the fetus feels pain is a totally ridiculous statement. Pain implies cognition. There is no brain to receive the information."
The fetal movements shown on the ultrasound are thus not reactions to perceptions of pain, aggression, or "imminent destruction," as the film's-narrator asserts. They are simple avoidance reactions, like the reflex of a knee when the doctor taps it. Contrary to the intentionally misleading implications of the film, there is no "silent scream."
Till och med den här sidan, som ser ut att vara "pro life":
www.doctorsonfetalpain.com talar om möjlighet för foster att känna smärta vid 20 veckor, inte vid 12 som Bernard Nathanson påstår.
Washington Post har intervjuat honom:
www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/03/24/the-scream-of-bernard-nathanson/ab86bd62-b5d9-4beb-b317-efbe21a73726/&utm_term=.fc7c7fd3976d
Där kan man också läsa följande:
"Dr. Jennifer Niebyl, director of maternal and fetal medicine at Johns Hopkins Hospital, says a fetus at 12 weeks that moves in response to stimulus "is exhibiting reflex behavior" and doesn't feel anything "on a conscious level.""
"Niebyl has seen "The Silent Scream," and says that what Nathanson describes as the fetus recoiling from pain and seeking to escape may be, in fact, simply the kind of movements fetuses make all the time."
"Niebyl also says suction abortions aren't as drawn out as appears on the film, but are "almost instantaneous . . . It takes maybe a couple of minutes.""
Hur vetenskaplig tycker du att The Silent Scream är?