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    För er som undrar varför många bojkottar varor från USA

    Läs det här och säg sen att Trump inte är en fullständigt odemokratisk och livsfarlig despot:

    En kanadensisk medborgare beskriver:


    "One thing I've learned over the past few weeks, and it's been a bit of a sobering lesson, is that a lot of Americans I know don't actually know what's going on between the US and Canada right now, and just how seriously Canadians are taking this. So, against my better judgement, here's a timeline to explain why we're here, and why we're angry.
    Nov 30th, 2018 - The United States, Canada and Mexico finalize a trade agreement. Trump personally negotiates the terms and signs the document, celebrating it as 'the greatest trade agreement in history". (This is important.)
    Nov 29th, 2024 - In a face to face meeting, Trump threatens the Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, that he will be imposing 25% tariffs and that if Canada wants to avoid that, it should join the US as a state.
    Nov 30th, 2024 - Trump publicly calls our Prime Minister 'Governor Trudeau' and instructs his staff to only address him as Governor going forward. He again suggests Canada should join the USA.
    Dec 3rd, 2024 - Trump remarks that he would split Canada into two states once annexed.
    Dec 10th, 2024 - Trump posts that the majority of Canadians support annexation, despite public polling that only 13% of Canadians would consider the idea.
    Dec 18th, 2024 - Trump again falsely states that the majority of Canadians support annexation and that one of his lapdogs, Wayne Gretzky, should have a leadership role in that new scenario.
    Jan 7th, 2025 - At a press conference, Trump says that he would use economic force to destroy the Canadian economy to annex it.
    Jan 14, 2025 - Trump again claims that most Canadians want to be American, despite new polls showing only 10% of us are open to the idea.
    Jan 20th, 2025 - During his inaugural address, Trump says that the U.S. will 'expand its territory' during his second term.
    Jan 23rd, 2025 - At the World Economic Forum, Trump says that Canada can avoid tariffs and economic collapse if it joins the US. He says this in front of representatives from most countries in the world.
    Jan 24th, 2025 - Trump states publicly that Canada 'will' become a state
    Jan 31st, 2025 - Trump announces a 25% tariff on all Canadian imports to begin the next day.
    Feb 2nd, 2025 - Trump refers to Canada as its 'Cherished 51st state' and that it should join the US to avoid tariffs.
    Feb 3rd, 2025 - A one month delay is agreed upon. Trump, in a conversation with Trudeau states that he doesn't think existing border treaties with Canada are valid, and need to be revised.
    Feb 7th, 2025 - In a closed door meeting with his cabinet, Prime Minister Trudeau is recorded, without his knowledge, telling everyone that he believes very strongly that Trump is serious and that he stated his reason for annexation as Canadian resources.
    Feb 9th, 2025 - In a Super Bowl pre-game interview, Trump says that he's serious about his threats, calling it a 'viable consideration for expanding US territory'
    Feb 10th, 2025 - Trump announces an additional 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Canada to come into effect March 12th.
    Feb 24th, 2025 - Trump publicly remarks that whoever signed the USMCA agreement is an idiot. He was the one that signed it.
    March 4th, 5th, and 6th 2025 - Tariffs come into effect. Canada retaliates with it's own tariffs. Tariffs are again postponed until April 1st after a huge market backlash.
    March 4th, 2025 - In an address to a joint session of congress, Trump states that the US will own Greenland 'one way or the other'.
    March 5th, 2025 - US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick told Canadian finance minister Dominic LeBlanc that Trump "had come to realize that the relationship between the United States and Canada was governed by a slew of agreements and treaties that were easy to abandon."
    March 7th, 2025 - Unconfirmed Memorandum and maps leaked on twitter reveal Trump is allegedly planning to annex the entirety of the great lakes and Southern Ontario, home to 13,491,332 Canadians. This amounts to 35.25% of Canada's total population and includes its largest city, Toronto. This region accounts for 38% of the Canadian economy, and its loss would make Canada's independence functionally impossible.
    March 8th, 2025 - Canada's foreign minister warns European allies that their government considers Canada to be under existential threat.
    March 9th, 2025 - Mark Carney, the new Canadian Prime Minister, in his acceptance speech, states that Trump is seeking to destroy Canada, and its way of life.
    March 11, 2025 - President Trump threatens to ?permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada? if Canada does not drop a 250% to 390% tariff on U.S. dairy products, which he doesn?t state only kicks in after a certain quantity of tariff-free U.S. dairy enters Canada, a quantity that was originally negotiated and agreed to by Trump during the USMCA in 2018.
    In Trump's own words, "The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians? taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever ? And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World ? And your brilliant anthem, ?O Canada,? will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!"
    March 11th, 2025 PT. II - Peter Navarro, a Senior Advisor for Trump is interviewed by MSNBC. When asked about the tariffs he responds with "Just tamp it down, please, over there, ok? They're throwing down the hockey gloves. Stop that rhetoric...we're not going to tolerate anything but them stopping killing Americans", insinuating that this situation was caused by Canadians killing Americans.
    March 11th, 2025 PT III - Trump again publicly muses that Canada, Greenland, and the US should be one country, and questions the validity of the Canadian and American border.
    March 11th, 2025 PT IV - Canada sells $3.5 Billion dollars of its US Bonds
    March 12th, 2025 - Canadian Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc announces tariffs on $29.8B worth of U.S. goods. This includes tariffs on Steel, Aluminum, computers, tools, sporting equipment and cast iron products.
    March 12th, 2025 PT II - A French Barracuda nuclear attack submarine docks in Halifax, Nova Scotia - a major Canadian post on the east coast. This follows comments made by Macron last week that France will protect its allies under its nuclear umbrella
    To my American friends, I know most of you are amazing and generous people. You didn't ask for this, and I understand that. I hold no ill will towards you, whatsoever. But I must stress, with as much seriousness as I can, the amount of damage this has done.
    We have viewed you as our closest friend and ally for a century. We thought of you as brothers and sisters. We answered the call, again and again, for any support you needed from us. Most of Canadians visit the USA so much that we've seen more of the US than we have the rest of Canada.
    American products have been taken off our shelves. Canadians are cancelling travel plans to the US. Photo after photo has been shared on social media of empty flights from Canada to the USA.
    This isn't a joke to us. We're not overreacting. We don't think he's just saying this shit to cause chaos or negotiate a deal. We wholeheartedly believe that our closest ally and friend is about to bring violence across our border, economically destroy us, and eliminate our way of life.
    The main driver for Canada's creation in 1867 was SPECIFICALLY to not be part of America, and to end America's very public threats and plans to annex our territory.
    We're angry. We're really, really fucking angry. Open your eyes to what's happening because we're tired of trying to make you understand why and asking you why it seems like none of you care. **
    I still hope that there is time to repair this. I still believe that this is the result of one man's plan to burn it all down. But time is running out, and fast.
    Det är många det är synd om, men inte alltid för det de tror.
  • Svar på tråden För er som undrar varför många bojkottar varor från USA
  • Padirac
    Tow2Mater skrev 2025-03-22 15:57:23 följande:
    Ja, och Hillary's (under Obama och Biden) reset button till Ryssland var det väl ingen som höjde på ögonbrynen åt.
    Var det inte precis vad Trump och Vance föreslog när de i ovala rummet anklagade Zelenskyy för att inte vilja ha fred, att förbättra handelsrelationer och politiska relationer istället för att acceptera att Kreml inte är intresserade av ömsesidig nytta.och fredliga relationer.

    Det Trump och Vance föreslog var samma politik som Europa och USA försökt sedan millennieskiftet utan att förändra Rysslands krig och mördande i grannländer.
  • Tow2Mater
    Anonym (Antiextremist) skrev 2025-03-22 16:53:55 följande:
    "Trump är högst ansvarig för våldet och stormningen av Capitolium den 6 januari 2021 och borde därför stängas av från alla framtida ämbeten. Detta är vad den 6 januari-kommittén kommit fram till i sin 845-sidor långa rapport."

    www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/trumps-ilska-efter-6-januari-kommittens-rapport-inte-ett-enda-bevis
    Kommittén där Pelosi förbjöd republikanerna att utse sina egna ledamöter till utredningen och hon istället valde 2 Trump-kritiker som Liz Cheney av de endast 2 republikanerna hon tillät vara med. De andra 7 var demokrater. Bara du tror resultatet av det blir en rättvisande rapport. Kommittén förstörde dessutom egna protokoll och påverkade vittnen i hemlighet.
  • Anonym (Antiextremist)
    Tow2Mater skrev 2025-03-22 17:19:08 följande:
    Kommittén där Pelosi förbjöd republikanerna att utse sina egna ledamöter till utredningen och hon istället valde 2 Trump-kritiker som Liz Cheney av de endast 2 republikanerna hon tillät vara med. De andra 7 var demokrater. Bara du tror resultatet av det blir en rättvisande rapport. Kommittén förstörde dessutom egna protokoll och påverkade vittnen i hemlighet.
    Jaha...är det bara republikanerna och Trump som enligt dig är pålitliga? 😂 Så tänker bara de mest extrema Trump anhängare. Trump tex är bevisat en av största lögnare som funnits. Under hans förra mandat ljög han i sina uttalande över 3500 gånger. När han tex gör uttalanden ljuger han 21 gånger per dag.

  • Tow2Mater
    Anonym (Antiextremist) skrev 2025-03-22 17:31:35 följande:
    Jaha...är det bara republikanerna och Trump som enligt dig är pålitliga? 😂 Så tänker bara de mest extrema Trump anhängare. Trump tex är bevisat en av största lögnare som funnits. Under hans förra mandat ljög han i sina uttalande över 3500 gånger. När han tex gör uttalanden ljuger han 21 gånger per dag.
    Det har jag inte påstått, jag har sagt till dig tidigare att jag anser alla politiker ljuger, oavsett vilken grupp de tillhor. Men en pålitlig utredning borde vara någorlunda neutral i deltagare, vilket denna inte alls var.
  • Padirac

    Nu ljuger du ju lite sådär inte oskyldigt igenSolig

    Två av fem av de representanter som McCarthy ville ha med godkändes inte av Pelosi på goda grunder, McCarthy drog då tillbaks att fem deltagare istället för att utse två ersättare.

    On July 21, Thompson announced that he would investigate Trump as part of the inquiry into the Capitol attack.[43] Hours later, Pelosi announced that she had informed McCarthy that she was rejecting Jordan and Banks, citing concerns for the investigation's integrity and relevant actions and statements made by the two members. She approved the recommendations of the other three.[44] Rather than suggesting two replacements, McCarthy insisted he would not appoint anyone unless all five of his choices were approved.[45][46] When McCarthy pulled all of his picks, he eliminated all Trump defenders on the committee and cleared the field for Pelosi to control the committee's entire makeup and workings. This was widely interpreted as a costly political miscalculation by McCarthy.


    Tow2Mater skrev 2025-03-22 17:19:08 följande:
    Kommittén där Pelosi förbjöd republikanerna att utse sina egna ledamöter till utredningen och hon istället valde 2 Trump-kritiker som Liz Cheney av de endast 2 republikanerna hon tillät vara med. De andra 7 var demokrater. Bara du tror resultatet av det blir en rättvisande rapport. Kommittén förstörde dessutom egna protokoll och påverkade vittnen i hemlighet.
  • Anonym (Antiextremist)
    Tow2Mater skrev 2025-03-22 17:40:58 följande:
    Det har jag inte påstått, jag har sagt till dig tidigare att jag anser alla politiker ljuger, oavsett vilken grupp de tillhor. Men en pålitlig utredning borde vara någorlunda neutral i deltagare, vilket denna inte alls var.
    Men det handlar om USA, det var deras experter som gjorde rapporten, det var inte Iran eller Ryssland. Du kör Trumps agenda där det hävdas att det är det bara han och personer runt honom som berättar sanningen. Samtidigt bevisas det att Trump är störta lögnare genom historien. 
  • Anonym (Antiextremist)
    Tow2Mater skrev 2025-03-22 17:40:58 följande:
    Det har jag inte påstått, jag har sagt till dig tidigare att jag anser alla politiker ljuger, oavsett vilken grupp de tillhor. Men en pålitlig utredning borde vara någorlunda neutral i deltagare, vilket denna inte alls var.
    Men det handlar om USA, det var deras experter som gjorde rapporten, det var inte Iran eller Ryssland. Du kör Trumps agenda där det hävdas att det är det bara han och personer runt honom som berättar sanningen. Samtidigt bevisas det att Trump är störta lögnare genom historien. 
  • TvillingmammaVästgöte
    AndreaBD skrev 2025-03-22 16:29:52 följande:
    Och nu vill inte amerikanerna avsätta Trump. Samma situation. Amerikanerna kommer först att reagera när det är uppenbar. 
    Och då är det kanske för sent.
  • Anonym (Ingen bryr sig)

    Om en person, vilken som helst, tror att Trump har gjort och sagt både bra och dåliga saker. Man ser saker ur olika perspektiv.

    Den andra hävdar att han allena gjort dåliga saker och jämför honom med den värsta personen i världshistorien. Man reagerar känslomässigt och överdriver.

    Vem har mest troligt rätt?

  • Anonym (Antiextremist)
    Anonym (Ingen bryr sig) skrev 2025-03-22 18:27:29 följande:

    Om en person, vilken som helst, tror att Trump har gjort och sagt både bra och dåliga saker. Man ser saker ur olika perspektiv.

    Den andra hävdar att han allena gjort dåliga saker och jämför honom med den värsta personen i världshistorien. Man reagerar känslomässigt och överdriver.

    Vem har mest troligt rätt?


    I nazityskland skulle jag inte vilja att nazisternas röst gills.
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