Sverige är en rutten fisk!

Sluta vara så paranoid! Alla skiter i dina mail!

Nej i dagens läge är kunskap makt och är lika värdefullt för ett land som rent guld. Det som man är intresserad av att samla är s.k. Big data och då vill man åt så mycket som möjligt. Ingenting är privat längre.

Något för dig att läsa kan vara det här:
A Child's Guide to Why NSA Surveillance is Bad

Jag tycker det är för jävligt att vi skall sammankopplas med en jävla Sardin, tycker vi kunde fått tex Devils Eye som kodnamn i stället, nu känner jag mig faktiskt kränkt.

Avlyssningen kunde jag inte bry mig mindre om, tror folk dom gör det för sitt egna höga nöjes skull, eller !!!
Kan ett oskyldigt  liv sparas är det okej för min del.... 

Om regeringen bestämde sig för att ta övervakningen till en ny nivå, nämligen genom att läsa och öppna alla privatpersoners brev innan du får läsa dom, för "säkerhetsskull", skulle du då tycka att det är ok också?

Eller att en kamera installerades i ditt hem så att regeringen kunde se att du inte var en terrorist?

Sen håller jag med dig om att vi fick ett väldigt taskigt kodnamn. Men sen så är vi ju USAs lilla dörrmatta med. Jag är bara förvånad över att vi inte fick heta "Fido" eller något sånt som den knähund vi är.

Och Anton, på riktigt nu. Tror du på allvar att det här räddar liv?
Det är bara en sak som ska göra övervakningen mer legitimt förstår du väl.

Ja. Övervakningen av vad som händer på ditt visakort, på din mail, i din telefon....

Köper du mjölk på Coop? Får du reklam från lensway? Surfar du på Aftonbladet?

DET ÄR AV OERHÖRT INTRESSE FÖR VÄRLDSORDNINGEN!!

DE HAR SPAN PÅ DIG!! fly upp i bergen.

De spårar denna tråd och kommer snart och hämtar dig.

Guantanamo finns kvar, vet du, du statens fiende nummer ett.

Har du ens bemödat dig att läsa länken jag skickade?

NSA surveillance is legal. 

True, as was slavery in the U.S., the Holocaust under Nazi Germany, Apartheid in South Africa and so forth. Laws mean very little when they are manipulated for evil.

I'm not doing anything wrong, so why should I care? If you're doing nothing wrong, then you've got nothing to hide! (Till dig Puss )

See above. The definition of "wrong" can change very quickly.

I trust Obama on this.

All of your personal data is in the hands of the same people that run the TSA, the IRS and likely the DMV. Do you trust all of them all the time to never make mistakes or act on personal grudges or political biases? Do you believe none of them would ever sell your data for personal profit ever? In fact, the NSA is already sharing your data with, at minimum, British intelligence. That's a foreign government that your American government is informing on you to, FYI.

I really trust Obama on this.

OK, let's stipulate that Obama will never do anything bad with the data. But once collected, your personal data exists forever, and is available to whomever in the future can access it, using whatever technologies come to exist. Trusting anyone with such power is foolish.

Well, there are checks and balances in the system to protect us.

See above. Also, the king of all checks and balances in this case, the Fourth Amendment, has been treated by the government like a used Kleenex. As for the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Court (FISA), set up to review government requests for wiretapping, it approved all 1,789 requests submitted to it in 2012. The FBI made 15,229 National Security Letter requests in 2012 on Americans. None of those even require FISA rubber-stamping.

There are 300 million Americans, producing a gazillion emails and Skype chats and Instagrams every day. Nobody cares about my boring stuff.

Mining all that data is just a matter of how many computers are devoted to the task today, and using better technology in the future will make it even easier.

Distasteful as this all is, it is necessary to keep us safe. It's for our own good.

The United States, upholding to our beautiful Bill of Rights, has survived (albeit on a sometimes bumpy road) two world wars, the Cold War and innumerable challenges without a massive, all-inclusive destruction of our civil rights. Keep in mind that the Founders created the Bill of Rights, point-by-point, specifically to address the abuses of power (look up the never-heard-from-again Third Amendment) they experienced under an oppressive British government. A bunch of angry jihadis, real and imagined, seems a poor reason to change that system. Prior to 9/11 we did not have a mass-scale terror act (by foreigners; American Citizen Timothy McVeigh pulled one off.) Since 9/11 we have not had a mass-scale terror attack. We can say 9/11 was a one-off, an aberration, and cannot be a justification for everything the government wishes to do. There is also the question of why, if the NSA is vacuuming up everything, and even sharing that collection abroad, this all needs to be kept secret from the American people. If it is for our own good, the government should be proud to tell us what they are doing for us, instead of being embarrassed when it leaks. If you're not doing anything wrong then you've got nothing to hide, right?

Terrorist are everywhere.  (Detta stycket är tillägnat dig Anton )

Doubtful. No suicide bombers in shopping malls, no hijackings. How many Americans have died in the past twelve years due to terrorism in the U.S.? At the same time, despite all this intrusion into our lives and violations of the Fourth Amendment, the system completely missed the Boston bombers, two of the dumbest, least sophisticated bro' terrorists in the world. Those two practiced no tradecraft at all. Maybe all this surveillance isn't really about stopping terrorists and is more about generic spying on us all? At the same time, we do have a problem with gun nuts committing mass shootings that have mowed down Americans in numbers far beyond terrorism since 9/11, but no one seems concerned about using tech to stop that. So much has been justified (torture, spying) by the so-called ticking time bomb scenario but there has never been shown an actual ticking time bomb scenario in real life.

Protecting America comes first.

Agreed. But protecting what from what is the question. If instead of spending trillions and trillions of dollars on spying and domestic surveillance we spent that same money on repairing our infrastructure and improving our schools, wouldn't that more directly create a stronger America?

I just don't care.

Fine, enjoy your television. Just don't be surprised when you're woken from your deep sleep one night by a knock on the door.

De börjar med att åberopa Godwins lag, vilket per definition ogiltigförklarar all därpå följande text. Briljant.